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I hate when the lessons are easy but the assessment is a hundred times more difficult. Where the fuck am I supposed to have learned this stuff?

This is why I failed o chem 2 and Calc 2 a million years ago, I didn't know how to learn beyond the syllabus/lessons then and I still don't know now.

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@Cyannin What are you stuck on?

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@pagrus I don't even know how to explain that.
I thought I understood most of the concepts - functions that have an array as the parameters, fine. Loops to pull from an array, sure. How they expect us to apply it? Beyond me. I've got the answer key here and I'm mostly following but I could never ever have come up with this myself. I don't know how I'm supposed to learn this. Also they want to use .includes and I've never seen that before.

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@Cyannin is this PHP? Happy to chat if you like.

Yeah sometimes the leaps that they expect you to make are unreasonable, and even sometimes when you come back to them later it’ll be like wtf

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@pagrus it's Javascript. Which is supposed to be the easy intro so I'm feeling really not cut out for this.

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@Cyannin ohhh shit I just looked up .includes() and yeah js is not my strong point. There are a lot of js wizards here though! Always nice to get another perspective

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@Cyannin I will also only add that I know a few languages to greater and lesser degrees (python, c++, PHP, perl, bash, etc) and js has never made any kind of sense to me. I know it's supposed to be "easy" but sometimes I think peoples' brains are just wired diferently

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@pagrus I will try to be reassured by this. Whatever brain wrote this assessment is on a completely different planet than mine 😐

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@Cyannin take comfort in the fact you will be able to look back on this and be like yep I was totally right, even knowing what I know now

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@pagrus this is making me have so much doubt in myself, I don't know if I'll ever be able to look back at all.

This entire course is mostly JS. The goal is to be marketable with React. I don't know if I'm cut out for this. I guess tomorrow I can chat with one of the "technical coaches".

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@Cyannin As someone with a fear/distrust of js and js frameworks, my advice is this: power through it, do the course, get what you can out of it. Take advantage of their job placement resources. You are 100% capable of it

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@pagrus I just don't know how to power through if I can't do the work. I'm trying. I've been staring at this problem for 5-6 hours (plus several breaks).

I have to pass an hour-long live JS assessment sometime in the next week, as well as a pretty big "take-home challenge".
If I don't pass the assessment, I get booted but at least I get most of my money back... Guess we'll see.

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@Cyannin What do think would help? Tutorials? Study buddy?

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@Cyannin there is no such thing as cheating

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@pagrus well I just copied and pasted the answers so this is timely, lmao.
I couldn't even retype them correctly and idk why, it really looked the same.
I guess I'll rewrite these a few times until at least I'm familiar with the syntax.

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@Cyannin your environment can help or hinder you. they might suggest an ide or whaever but the best thing is texteditor/wordpad/vim

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@pagrus yeah there's a lot of practice in replit and assessments in a built-in ide that isn't too bad (I like how things change color) but when I'm really struggling, I've been hand-writing things out!

I'm not familiar with vim, I will check it out!
...I see it also has colors, haha, cool

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@Cyannin Well please keep posting when you run into walls or whatever. If you would like js people to connect with I can ask around

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@pagrus better instructing maybe? I don't really know. I have never done well with study groups. I tried finding an outside tutorial but everything is either too shallow or too complicated, nothing was really relevant. I might go back and repeat the lessons I already did.
I don't know how to learn what I don't know here and that's the worst, I'm usually good at that - but JS feels so random. I hate how everyone writes it differently.

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